QUESTION: Had you ever heard of Spahn Movie Ranch? The mouth of Cielo is downhill and on the other side of the hill where the home is. ANSWER: Well, then they drug me onto the patio and threw me down on my stomach. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Prosecution witness William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOxfXLe8Y8p7RVwPUaHWtCgMy discussion will center on unique perspectives, research methodologies, and cognitive dissonance in the Manson study. And you might also learn something. One of Kathleen's two sisters died at 20 years old from the flu. Her appearance, the fact that her oldest child is also a Charles, and looks amazingly like Charlie. QUESTION: This is the only other time that you had seen him prior to this evening? Does anyone consider a bj sex? ANSWER: Well, they kept accurate time if I would wind them up. The property at 10050 Cielo Drive was designed by renowned architect Robert Byrd in 1942 and completed in 1944. You might even have a story just like it to share with me in the comments. QUESTION: Does he appear to resemble this man? QUESTION: Another photograph of the living room, is that correct? QUESTION: Have you ever seen them prior to today? QUESTION: Does this appear to be where you lived on the premises? A side note for genealogy geeks like me. Billy is thirteen when his dad is indicted in Ohio Amish country for common deadbeatery. Cost-effective for sure, but (far more importantly) a great opportunity for a spontaneous adventure. QUESTION: Do you recall what you did that day? He said he was not advised of his right to remain silent until several hours after his arrest. You can visit Sherman's. Buntline - Agree. Doug, that was way nice. Just a fairly good one. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Children: William, John, Aaron, Anna wife of Elisha Underwood, Sarah wife of James Wickersham, Marion wife of Thomas McCrery, Naomi wife of James Thomas, and Elizabeth wife of Joseph Blackford. He also had been passing lie detector tests. May it be marked Peoples 22 for identification? I'd say, "Gimme the straight dope, Billy. Maybe some of the Gen Z'ers too. If you're wondering, I solve the mystery behind August 8th today, so make sure you read through until the end! ANSWER: You had to push a button right before you get to the gate, it would be on the left side. MR. BUGLIOSI: I would request this, Your Honor, instead of his posture being that of impeachment. QUESTION: Did it appear to you that Sebring was a frequent visitor at the location? (A historical marker located in Waterloo in Monroe County, Illinois.) ANSWER: The people that lived in the main house. QUESTION: Have you ever met anyone who said that they knew either one of these defendants? Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. I am in possession of what purports to be a transcript of an interview with Mr. Garretson at 4:25 pm, on August 10th, 1969, where this witness was asked about the events that took place on August 8th and 9th. A more important question is ~ what did he do with the shirt he was given ? QUESTION: You were carrying something in your hand, right? His net worth has been growing significantly in 2021-2022. Or "the truth" as you put it. Somewhat related, when they ask Billy during his polygraph if he ever had sex with a man, and Billy replies that he has, I notice that many researchers harmonize that statement with the blowjob tale. John Garretson born 7 Jan 1757, married 22 Apr 1778 in Menallen to Tamar Hammond born 10 Sep 1759 7. Overruled. QUESTION: In a sack. He later married Linda Derr, and the pair had a son together. MR. STOVITZ: With the permission of the Court, counsel stated we can mark that. I did not know who I dunno if you're a god or bacterium I'm a shapeshifter you'll find me on Sandymount Strand contemplating the Ineluctable modality of the visible. He described Garretson as everybody's friend, and a nice, quiet guy. The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. Actually, if you need backstory, start by reading the parts of, After that, read the Garretson articles on the right over there ------------------------->, For 21st century Billy info, read or refresh yourself on. QUESTION: And he picked you up and drove you home; is that correct? ANSWER: I couldnt really say, but it was just before daybreak. We hitched or walked everywhere, everyone did. He worked in an appliance place or something that dealt with radios and stereos. Billy studies business and is on the wrestling team but absent from the team photo. You get into the porch, then the patio. Yes, he could've lived at his mom's for awhile. Gimme an effin break. QUESTION: And that there was about a 6 second delay between the time the dogs barked and the guests arrived, is that correct? Speculation and theories about Garretson suggest he was using drugs and an arresting officer said, he looked gone no life in his eyes. He stated in connection with questions about dogs barking that: It was about 2 or 3 hours after he left, referring to Steven Parent, somewhere around there, that is when I looked out in the yard. It was just enough so that I could hear it. ANSWER: I couldnt hear the other people, no. Where is William Garretson today, on the 50th anniversary of the murders? Do you know what is shown in that photograph? Anti-establishment mindset. Next sentence, "Even as a child I knew they were not smart." QUESTION: Mr. Garretson, do you recall having a conversation with officers of the Los Angeles Police Department on or about August the 10th, 1969, at Parker Center, which is located at 150 QUESTION: Did he own the premises as far as you know? When he was there, he said he'd been up two nights solid {no pun intended} and he had no awareness of any sexual activity. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. If I think I remember something, I'll fact-check it just to make sure, and then proceed from there.When it comes to this case, I find that a fairly common occurrence is taking the tiniest point or anomaly and making the most of it. QUESTION: You did not think that was unusual or peculiar? Sadly, there's just not a lot out there to study. "Of course, I also thought he didn't participate in that himself, he just gave orders. He lived in a town where things change slowly and everyone knows everybody's business. ANSWER: No, not oh, from a distance, you know. You were arrested, correct? Somewhere around there. I didnt wind them up. Garretson lived . QUESTION: Did you hear any screams or hollers or yells that evening? Billy wrestled in high school. Tobiasragg, I stood at the hairpin turn on Cielo Drive last May and listened to my surroundings. QUESTION: This is the person that you saw from a distance on the premises? QUESTION: Dont did you have a conversation with him about that? ANSWER: In mid-March until the incident occurred. The pair were married for five years and had a son together, she said, adding that their son was born with a severe heart defect and died after his third open heart surgery. At the TLB trial, Bill was asked how exactly he landed the job at Cielo, and Bugliosi shot off an instant objection on the grounds of being outside of the scope of foundation.Although I cannot presently recall the source, Bill was said to have a 1968 Chevy Camaro parked back home in Lancaster as he set out to hitch across America in October 1968. son. QUESTION: Did you enter through the gate or did you enter through Bella Drive? QUESTION: You have never been to Spahn Movie Ranch? the picnic table. There is a cement platform where you walk into the guest house. I submit to the Court that that impeaches his direct testimony and would seem to establish that the dogs he seemed on his direct examination to be unclear as to when he heard certain dogs barking. ANSWER: That he barked, I mean, generally, but I mean any night he would generally bark. QUESTION: Did you normally have the windows open in the guest house? QUESTION: During that period of time, did you know who was living in the main house? son. QUESTION: All right, from the guest house . The following morning he was discovered in the guest house and quickly arrested on charges of suspicion of murder. QUESTION: Are you familiar with .22 caliber pistols? "My husband, I really don't think anybody in the area here, never gave him a chance of day," Linda Derr, Garretson's ex-wife said. The turning door handle story is terrifying okay but also reads like literature edited for maximum effect. Copyright 2020 Legal Disclosures, Terms of Service, Privacy Policy QUESTION: In the presence of Lieutenant A.H. Burdick? I mostly only internally discuss food wants and upcoming meals with myself. Smaller dude. After Parent gave Garretson a ride back to the estate, the young caretaker thanked him and invited Parent to stop by anytime he was in the area. Their son was born with a heart condition and he ended up dying after his third open-heart surgery. His father's bones or ashes are somewhere else. He is from USA. Billy and Wife #1 have a child while living at this address. MR. FITZGERALD: Finished with me by 4:15? QUESTION: I notice there is a little walk right here? QUESTION: I show you Peoples 20 for identification. This was his final address. He is not dating anyone. Please accept the unpaid researcher position I offer in the future. QUESTION: Is there a #4 on the volume control? QUESTION: Did you ever see what appeared to be parties in the evening in the location of the pool? Technology is all we have anymore if you think about it. (Aaron Sr. and Aaron Jr.) Aaron Garretson, Sr., our 3 rd great-grandfather, was the 7th of 10 children in a Quaker family. Hit Matt up. Except for the bj ancedote but I did ask. I lived in LA in 1969, in Leucadia and then in Orange County. Both work for me but I lean early. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 18 for identification, Mr. Garretson. Warrington Township. And check out Billy's answer to the last question. This is to no surprise as the LAPD officer who originally conducted his polygraph examination had concluded Garretson was clean on participation in the crimes, yet muddy as to his having heard anything. Billy and so many other youths were drawn west like moths to the flame and it never stops. Lovely digs. ANSWER: I know their name by Tom and Dave. Your Resource for the Tate-LaBianca (TLB) MurdersYesterday :: Today :: Tomorrow :: Where No Sense Makes Sense. Sherwin-Williams bought them out in 1982. QUESTION: Would you indicate, sir, on the diagram where the couch was in relation to that stereo? And anyway where'd you hide? Why I shouldn't eat this or that, what about on Saturday though, basic stuff. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 23 for identification. He later married Linda Derr, and the pair had a son together. Billy was about to turn twenty and return to the heartland when August 8th happened. QUESTION: You had seen him on or about the premises? There are quite a few times during the trial when an objection is made, but the witness has answered the question before the objection came in and the answer is allowed to stand and becomes part of the record ~ the very thing the objecting lawyer doesn't want.With Irving Kanarek objecting 9 times during the opening statement, and then asking for the whole statement to be stricken and then saying that a mistrial should be declared, it was clear right from the start that one of the defence's major tactics was going to be deflection. QUESTION: He left about 15 minutes after midnight; is that what you are saying? Cohen's is of course the best and then probably followed by Kaylee Rodgers from your own green island. Despite the lack of direct evidence, the prosecution spent weeks outlining how Murdaugh had the motive, means and opportunity . There's no man hanging around to give Billy his name and then abandon him. QUESTION: And you have been there ever since? The family resided there for several years, moving back to Smith County, Kansas, in 1933, to a farm in Pleasant Township. Buntline, yes thanks. When questioned, Garretson said he was unaware of the murders until police burst into his bedroom and led him to the bloody bodies of Frokowski and Abigail Folger, lying on the lawn, and Steven Parent, slumped over the wheel of his car. "Welllll, when I was in a band that was touring through (mainly) Germanyduring the mid/late 90s we had pulled into a smaller town/village where we were going to play at an arts community co-operative type place. Torque said it may cause one to wonder why Bill set out for California with only $1.85 in his pocket if he sold the Camaro. This was the first time I was able to clearly catch Charlie lying and for some reason it felt like a slap in the face. Alex Murdaugh has been convicted Thursday of killing his wife and son. QUESTION: About what time I cant pronounce the name myself what time did that dog leave? QUESTION: Try to speak up a little more loudly, sir. QUESTION: Did you fall asleep around dawn at all? QUESTION: At any time on the 8th or 9th, did you look out of the guest house in the direction of the main house? It was Abigail Folger and Frykowski that threw the party. His phone even. William Garretson was born on 24 August, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio, USA, is an Actor. MR. BUGLIOSI: Object, Your Honor, this is beyond the scope of the direct examination. In late July of 1969, Steve picked up 19-year-old William Garretson hitchhiking in Beverly Hills. I would request . QUESTION: In addition to caring for Mr. Altobellis dogs, did you have any other duties? Sitting high above California's Benedict Canyon, the 3,200 square-foot home and 2,000 square-foot guest house sat on a 3.3-acre plot. One can hear neighbors talking on the phone at a normal conversational voice level quite clearly from incredibly far away, depending on the weather and other conditions. Linda and Billy were on the same high school yearbook page together. Late night parties did occur at the main house so it is entirely possible that Garretson did not fully understand what danger was occurring that night. "I didn't believe it because there was no way that man did it," Snider-Bitler said of her initial reaction to Garretson'sarrest. But first, where was Billy before the dog watching gig that came with free rides from Folger family members? I noticed this at the same time I was reading Hillbilly Elegy recently. Thank you, Proteus. A third Gypsy friend offered to give a neighborhood canine the "Bill Garretson" for a beer and a smoke!! I'm calling bs on that one. QUESTION: Did you also know the gardeners? QUESTION: Do you have a volume control on that stereo? None of Billy's few interviews asked the questions I would call the necessary questions. Tony Montoya - Kill Me Again (1989) as Alan Swayzie These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. If this concerns you click read more. QUESTION: In other words, you did not cross over the lawn area in front of the Polanski residence? daughter. William's life was certainly filled with heartbreak and tragedy. Police spared Garretson a sight even more horrible inside the house. QUESTION: He actually owned the guest house? Moreover, she said Bill had but $1.85 in his pocket.Bill did agree to an interview on Truth On Tate Labianca Radio a few years ago, and answered several questions. He was given a polygraph examination on August 10, 1969, and that had effectively eliminated him as a suspect. His wife is granted the divorce on the grounds of gross neglect and extreme cruelty. I don't think he'd hurt a fly.". Definitely ask the others because this brain is mush. More About WILLIAM GARRETSON: Occupation: Weaver Notes for MARY A. FRAIZER: Gary Hawley <ghaw@bigfoot.com> After the murders, William led a fairly quiet life. Scrolling through the labels along the right side of the blog reveals that this is the thirteenth time blog writers have mentioned Billy (and remembered to make a label). His current love life is quite a mystery. Sex is sex imo. Other choices existed. ANSWER: I really couldnt say. We have had (and still have) quite a few posters who write clearly and effectively (it would be invidious to single out anyone in particular). QUESTION: Can you see the diagram, Peoples 8, from where you are seated, sir? ANSWER: Yes, I was. The richest couple in his wealthy state receive weekly deliveries. "My husband, I really don't think anybody in the area here, never gave him a chance of day," Linda Derr, Garretson's ex-wife said. May it be marked Peoples 20 for identification? Just that her birth mom was a prostitute and her alleged dad was from "across the river". Did Billy split for the West Coast so he could be gay without his mom running the vacuum in the living room while he got his groove on behind his locked bedroom door? Death by electrocution. Every young person loves living at home after they become adults. How much time passes before a yokel like Billy can cozy up to a mobbed-up guy like Rudi and have the skill set to make it stick? Since 2016, Billy is gone and it's possible barely anyone cares. QUESTION: Now, are you familiar with the acoustics at 10050 Cielo Drive? He should've known. You might think Billy was from the sticks and in a way you're right but his hometown of Lancaster, Ohio, is also basically becoming a distant burb of the state capital these days. !No word of a lie! He had little or no money and was freshly unemployed. View popular celebrities life details, birth signs and real ages. I'm not sure how long he was in LA before 8/8/69. The importance of the dogs barking is that they may signal or herald the arrival on the scene of the persons who perpetrated the events. We have estimated At 59, he is a big-rig truck driver. I'm pretty sure no one who just read that is sitting there saying, "Wow, that's super mean and odd because none of the rich people I know are like that" If someone told me that story, for example, I would probably shrug and say what do you expect? QUESTION: How long would the gate stay open? Los Angeles and its carnate representatives put the mind break on Billy from every angle. QUESTION: Did you also know some of the personnel who worked there? Sound travels in strange and unexpected ways in those settings and what people in the area (Wm G. included) reported is entirely in line with reality. QUESTION: What about the day before, Sunday afternoon at 4:25 in the afternoon? QUESTION: So this shows a portion of the guest house, is that correct? A friend down on Santa Monica Boulevard. Didn't know Billy had it in him. MR. BUGLIOSI: I have here another photograph, Your Honor, showing a portion of a residence. "Because when Justin finally woke up (fortunately around 20mins before we were supposed to go on) he had a VERY weak recollection of how he came to lose his stuff (fortunately, no beating or organ harvesting occurred) AND, HE HAD ZERO RECOLLECTION OF HIS "Bill Garretson" tag team Gypsy session! But fear-stricken Hollywood residents rushed to buy guns yesterday for self-protection. Martin Sr.'s wife, Anna Marie, also passed away in 1875 at the age of 56 due to winter fever. 1:07 LANCASTER - Charles Manson's death Sunday brought back memories of his connections to central and southern Ohio. That was when I just turned 18; and, well what the story was, I was with this one kid that, you know, I knew, and he went and bought these girls a beer, and I happened to be with him when he was in the store, so I was charged for it. Perhaps they were afraid they may have had to take care of Rudi's dogs if Bill wound up in jail.I have attempted to contact one girl that Bill was reported to have known in LA. Derr described her ex-husband, who died in 2016, as a very good man, loving man, and cited those qualities as the reason she married him. QUESTION: You hitchhiked down Sunset Boulevard, right? Billy's story should reinforce that belief if you already have it. ANSWER: Well, the Weimaraner left. He was arrested and questioned for murder, then released from jail two days later. QUESTION: There appears to be a stereo in the far left corner of this photograph. I didn't know other drugstores existed for the first twelve years of my life. We will update William Garretson's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. Christy Snider-Bitler, another classmate, was also shocked to see Garretson on the headlines of newspapers and TVs across the country in 1969. QUESTION: Did anyone live with you in the guest house? !when they ask Billy during his polygraph if he ever had sex with a man, and Billy replies that he has, I notice that many researchers harmonize that statement with the blowjob taleActually, it's not researchers that do the harmonizing, it's Garretson himself. Could this have been the baby the 2 men took to the guesthouse the night of the murders? Garretson was the caretaker of Rudi Altobelli's Cielo Drive estate in Benedict Canyon, which at the time was rented out to Roman Polanski and his wife Sharon Tate. He is not dating anyone. While I've never considered myself a Charlie apologist, I've often defended him based on my perception of his childhood. If you go to the scene in Fromme's Reflexion, sorry I'm lazy today, it's on page 92 in the Kindle version lol, Charlie moves from one scene in the past to another. Copyright 2020 Legal Disclosures, Terms of Service, Privacy Policy I never will. Focusing on Garretson's immediate past, as one who survived the murders without a physical scratch, was part of that game and therefore, Bugliosi and Stovitz were of a mind to shut down quickly any loopholes.They also had their ammunition to counter the defence deflection; what Astrocreep refers to as "death by a thousand cuts."
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